Apr 1, 2013
The gang is back and there is plenty to drink about. Dane is having a bad day. Sam has a bout of the sick poops. Doc does The News. Some wondering why it is OK to be biggoted against Hispanics. Call the comment line at (206) 309-7308. Thanks for listening.
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Questions:What is the game plan -(political and legal) -by the young Arab academics and iltaleectulns in the United States? What would they do that Abbas isn't doing?You also go back to the 70 s and say the Palestinian cause was no longer simply an Arab cause, that your struggle became a national liberation movement. An independent Palestinian liberation movement.You say there was also an insistence that the Palestinian cause was not simply a humanitarian or refugee problem but one of independence, sovereignty, and recognition.Isn't that what it still is?Who represented the refugee camps and why was that the main reason for Palestine diplomatic successes? I am not educated on that. I thought the refugees problem was worked on a lot by the international Human rights orgs.How does the Palestinian UN bid have the capacity to undermine the rights of Palestinians? How would the Palestinians presently represented by the PLO lose this representation by PLO? Are you talking only about the Palestines refugees, that the PLO would sell them out? You say the only way to protect and realize your rights is to insist that the Palestinian cause remains a national liberation struggle and not simply a humanitarian crisis or a struggle for individual rights. And you see no better way to do this than your move for the recognition of a Palestinian state by the UN. Since that is what Abbas is doing I don't understand why exactly the academics and iltaleectulns want him replaced unless you think he will cave or renig on that effort.What could the academics and iltaleectulns do or do differently if they became the leadership of Palestine that isn't being currently done?It is apparant that intellectually, emotionally and most every other way the bulk of the world already recognizes the need for human rights for Palestines, including the refugees and the right to statehood of Palestine -What stands in the way is politics , primarily the US.If the academics and iltaleectulns want to mount an intellectual and political assault in the US on why zionism is intellectually and or morally wrong that is fine.But the fact is intellectualism only goes so far and only appeals to some people. What gets the majority of people going, politicians included, is emotionalism'. People were pulled to the Palestine cause because of thecruelty of the Israeli occupation. Learning of, seeing, the assaults on children, the humiliations , the constant oppression and injustice in every facet of their lives.One picture of a injured or dead Palestine child, one story about the soul grinding humilation a Palestine goes thru or how his home or vineyeards are stolen or destroy is worth more than any intellectual argument ever invented. This a fact. This is how 99.9% of people are influenced.I am just not getting what you are after except replacing the old leadership with a young intellectual academic leadership because everything you suggest/talk about is/ has been included in this struggle in some way at some time.I don't see a academic and intellectual party , so to speak, if took over leadership of Palestine goals, having any better chance to get to a State or get to refugees rights than what is currently being done.
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